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janns411Mon Nov-15-04 09:52 AM
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This question stays with me especially since I have grown more solitary in the last few years in many ways. I ran into this today from John Dunne's book, The Reasons of the Heart, A Journey into Solitude and Back into the Human Circle: "To be loved means to be consumed," Rilke says, "to love is to give light with inexhaustible oil. To be loved is to pass away, to love is to endure." As long as he lives in the excitement of understanding and loving, he will give light with inexhaustible oil, he will endure. If he once turns toward being understood and being loved, he fears, he will begin to be consumed, he will begin to pass away."

and later...

... Actually a person's story can be told in different ways, with different degrees of inwardness, the most inward being that of the spiritual adventure. In its least inward form it is the story of what happens to him, of the things and situations of his life. In a somewhat more inward form it is the story of the choices he makes, how he relates to things and situations. In a still more inward form it is the story of what he says, or better, of what he has to say, the story of his message, of what he has to communicate to others, his insight into his experience. In its most inward form, as that of a spiritual adventure, it is the story of the meaning he embodies in his life and death, the story of what he incarnates.

Telling the story of what has happened to him, our solitary man would have to tell how in pursuing the fulfillment of his deepest needs, his longing for communion on the deepest level of his life, he has let his other needs, especially his longing for simple human intimacy, go unfulfilled."

Is Dunne saying that it is possible that in our search for that deeper communion we might slip into and get caught by a spiritual adventure that somehow takes us away from our simple human needs of our communion with one another. Is it possible that many of us have stayed too long in the inner sphere (acted out in our neighborhoodless society), perhaps fueled by a disappointment for not sustaining the ecstacy of Love.

My take on all of this relates back to what you are saying about playing together. What do I mean by playing together? Giving and receiving out of the fullness of who we are. Risking the disappointment by allowing myself to be carried into communication with another without expectations of you fulfilling my spiritual needs. And this requires, I see now, time for that sacred communion with Other (PW) and back Out again.

My first Write in the introductory course showed me how I vanish from myself by how it is that I return. And it is no wonder that I vanish from others if I am not also at home.

Jann Patrice

  

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Vanishing [View all] , Toby, Thu Aug-12-04 05:56 AM
  RE: Vanishing, Toby, Aug 12th 2004, #1
RE: Vanishing, dbelt, Aug 26th 2004, #2
RE: Vanishing, PThompson, Aug 26th 2004, #3
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Sep 03rd 2004, #4
RE: Vanishing, janns411, Nov 15th 2004 #5
RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Nov 16th 2004, #6
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 16th 2004, #7
RE: Vanishing, jean, Nov 18th 2004, #8
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 21st 2004, #11
RE: Vanishing, Hermitess, Nov 18th 2004, #9
RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Nov 19th 2004, #10
RE: Vanishing, Una, Nov 23rd 2004, #12
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 24th 2004, #13
      RE: Vanishing, Una, Nov 27th 2004, #14
           RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 27th 2004, #15
                RE: Vanishing, Lara, Nov 30th 2004, #16
                     RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Dec 01st 2004, #17
                          RE: Vanishing, jean, Dec 02nd 2004, #18
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                                    RE: Vanishing, Toby, Jan 04th 2005, #20
RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 07th 2005, #21
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Apr 09th 2005, #22
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           RE: Vanishing, Toby, Apr 10th 2005, #24
                RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 10th 2005, #25
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