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jeanThu Dec-02-04 01:52 AM
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On the peekaboo question. I think I dared mention Freud's fort-da game a while ago (paranoia of ego: my post has vanished). Discussion of peekaboo revives that. Part of that game in which the child enjoys repeatedly throwing an object out of his crib on a string and pulling it back in is about mastering absence--ego-building, I'm sure. And fort-da has been taken as a kind of rudimentary act of representation ("re-presentation" as it was always written for a while in lit theory).

Absence is a precondition of language. Language is always a sign of absence. These are vague generalizations and Joan's recognition of "space" is much more accessible and immediate and workable. But they could be related.

By contrast to the toy on a string: the reappearance of someone, their popping back into my life, often feels like a gift, (a "present"), a boon, grace, maybe because/when I've given up anxious expectancy, entitlement, or (a mistitled) hope. This giving up may be my glimpse of what it could be like more of the time, if I could let go of that string (of projection? of a depressive's refusal to lose and mourn?) more of the time.

On the other hand, sometimes such a reappearance feels like an assuaging of a pain I wasn't aware of having. I become aware I had been missing the person. Their absence seems now to have been contributing to a homogeneous, featureless cloud of depression or anxiety.I'm not sure there's anything to be learned from this phenomenon. If I were more present and mindful sooner, I wouldn't get the "gift." But isn't this almost superstitious, magical thinking? What if they didn't reappear but died instead?

  

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Vanishing [View all] , Toby, Thu Aug-12-04 05:56 AM
  RE: Vanishing, Toby, Aug 12th 2004, #1
RE: Vanishing, dbelt, Aug 26th 2004, #2
RE: Vanishing, PThompson, Aug 26th 2004, #3
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Sep 03rd 2004, #4
RE: Vanishing, janns411, Nov 15th 2004, #5
RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Nov 16th 2004, #6
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 16th 2004, #7
RE: Vanishing, jean, Nov 18th 2004, #8
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 21st 2004, #11
RE: Vanishing, Hermitess, Nov 18th 2004, #9
RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Nov 19th 2004, #10
RE: Vanishing, Una, Nov 23rd 2004, #12
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 24th 2004, #13
      RE: Vanishing, Una, Nov 27th 2004, #14
           RE: Vanishing, Toby, Nov 27th 2004, #15
                RE: Vanishing, Lara, Nov 30th 2004, #16
                     RE: Vanishing, patrickj, Dec 01st 2004, #17
                          RE: Vanishing, jean, Dec 02nd 2004, #18
                               RE: Vanishing, jean, Dec 02nd 2004 #19
                                    RE: Vanishing, Toby, Jan 04th 2005, #20
RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 07th 2005, #21
RE: Vanishing, Toby, Apr 09th 2005, #22
      RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 09th 2005, #23
           RE: Vanishing, Toby, Apr 10th 2005, #24
                RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 10th 2005, #25
                     RE: Vanishing, Toby, Apr 11th 2005, #26
                          RE: Vanishing, Sheila, Apr 11th 2005, #27

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