I realize I've been thinking all day about what Michal said, which was so interesting. I'm not sure the issue is bottom line life (disciplines have been around for longer than the industrial age). The last thought I had was that we need practices and disciplines for self-remembering. Simple living makes us forget who and what we were before all the splits we feel in our bones and psyches. Life seems to me habitual forgetting. Of coure, if we all were enlightened, we would look at teach other out of loving eyes and we wouldn't need any such rituals. I think Michal is right about this.