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TobyMon Sep-05-05 05:43 AM
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#144, "KATRINA"


          

Any thoughts about this latest disaster? I'm still tring to wrap around the tragedy and its long range implications.

Toby

  

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infiniteglixFri Sep-09-05 06:51 AM
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#145, "RE: KATRINA"
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Oh Toby, so many thoughts about this... Rudolf Steiner said something about the weather reflecting the political climate. But it could also be the other way around too.

There's an Asian scientist who experiments with water--exposing it to different emotions. Speaking words into it or submerging words written on paper. Words like love, harmony, beauty yield perfect geometric patterns in the microscopic water crystals while words like hate, horror and anger yield a-symmetrical, jagged and downright disturbing shapes. I have no idea whether there is any truth to this, but it is very thought provoking and certainly came to mind when Katrina hit. They’re all connected--people, words, emotions, water...all vibrations and liquid.

So many shocking reactions: the press has been (finally) critical of the administration--we'll see how long that lasts. But there are radio stations and news papers with commentators saying that this is the best thing to happen to New Orleans.

To the international community it looks like we’re getting our punishment for our complete disregard of the Kyoto protocols and our continual wanton greenhouse emissions not to mention our karmic comeuppance for a policy of preemptive warfare.

And through all this--aside from the PR nightmare he has to deal with, I know Bush feels it was the will of God. Who was he to take any precautions or try to save anyone? Which reminds me of the joke (also told on the West Wing): A very religious man refuses to evacuate as a major storm is approaching, saying "God will save me." His friends drive by to pick him up. He remains. "God will save me." The flood waters rise. A rescue boat comes by. He refuses to leave. "God will save me." The waters engulf his house. A helicoptor comes to airlift him from his roof. He won’t budge. "God will save me." The man drowns. At the pearly gates, he says to God, "I was so devoted to you--how could you let me die?" God says, "I sent you a car, a boat and a helicopter..."

  

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TobyTue Sep-13-05 06:42 AM
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#146, "RE: KATRINA"
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Like you-- many thoughts. For one, seeing the obvious tie between poverty and racism, how it continues. Faulkner thought we were cursed when we took the land from the Indians and the gencide that went along with that historical stretch of time. Oy vay!

  

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PThompsonSun Sep-25-05 06:08 AM
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#147, "Katrina - What Will It Change?"
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I suspect that after all that pain & suffering, little will be done in regard to environmental solutions such as attempting to restore (if even possible) coastal wetlands, in administrative policy like restoring funding for the levee projects, or in people's attitudes in general about the perceived value of coastal property and how they'll just get bailed out by the Feds. So not much will change, New Orleans et al will be rebuilt and some years down the road we'll go through it all over again in some shape or form.

Just seems like there's a lot of people talking sense out there but I'm just too cynical about long-term follow-through on actually most anything these days. The ability to focus and *maintain* society's collective attention span is a skill/art that should be prized. How to educate and elevate global consciousness when we're all watching Martha Stewart or "Survivor"?

-Pete

  

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